nexer

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In the US some doors are narrower, OK :confused: , but should at least be aligned to the wall surface. 3 doors each aligned to a different wall, but we only have one wall :unsure:
Seems like something done in a hurry.
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nexer

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The product of DPC is his games. The product of L&P is his VN.
Based on how many people support one and the other, their rating, their publishing.. It's not hard to figure out who has the better product.
L&P isn't the only one with better renders than DPC. Stopper also has better renders. There's actually at least 5 games/VNS with better renders. Does it make them a better game? No.
That's why one has enough support to spend L&Ps networth in music for his products that go on the most popular game distributors platform in the world.

At this point not sure if you're trolling or if you're straight up not all there.
Going through the images in ep7 I draw some conclusions:
1. Kim Kardashian is more popular than a lot of women much more beautiful than her. That a game is popular doesn't mean it's the best at everything. I think most of Badik's patrons are teenagers.
2. Beautiful characters, face first.
3. Skin is not important, some characters have poor quality skins.
4. Except characters, the rest is very unimportant for most players.

I think a text at the beginning of a scene like:
"We are on a beach :oops: but nothing would be seen around :ROFLMAO: would be acceptable to most Badik patrons"
 

roro

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Just thinking out loud, this game is slow whatever anyone says differently, the content is not worth 4yrs ( soon to be). No hate nor complaining, just facts and yeah DPC is a genius, period.
Facts? Not worth 4 yrs is an opinion! My opinion is different than yours. That doesn't mean I don't want it to be faster just like you and everyone else.
 

nexer

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Just wondering how this thread was once a happy place to discuss future updates and exchange ideas. Now, it has turned into a clusterfuck. I'm not complaining, as I kinda enjoy it. But why so much trolling and hating? After all, we're all here to fap.
My opinion is a bit different. They started criticizing minor things, praising the work of others which should be proven.
I think there should have been a response, to restore order to things.

One is faster but sacrificing quality. We could compare this to a food product, cheaper but with many E's.

I think a comparison with DPC needs more arguments not just the number of renders. It is very possible that the lighting system used by L&P is 5-10 times more time consuming than the one used by DPC (when it exists ;) ).
Here an open window but no lights, no shadows, a background .... I don't know where a wall begins and ends :ROFLMAO: I think I need glasses :sneaky:.
Even without glasses I can see an armchair in Low Poly
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My PC won't let me play too much with renders/lights but we have a few in the forum that might give hints about the time needed.
 
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yihman1

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How did this thread turn into a Being a Dik thread? That game has absolutely nothing to do with this game at all.

DIK:

Sandbox
Many Minigames
Male Protagonist
Tons and tons of sex
No Incest
Dik / Chick moral alignment
Coomer Approved

AWAM:

Visual Novel
No Minigames
Female Protagonist
Tons and tons of teasing
Incest
Good Wife / Filthy moral alignment
Blue Balls

The two games are not very similar at all. Here is what they share in common:

Toxic Fans
Huge Download size
Endless whining in the forums
People want more updates more often
 

VanDarkBalls

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How did this thread turn into a Being a Dik thread? That game has absolutely nothing to do with this game at all.

DIK:

Sandbox
Many Minigames
Male Protagonist
Tons and tons of sex
No Incest
Dik / Chick moral alignment
Coomer Approved

AWAM:

Visual Novel
No Minigames
Female Protagonist
Tons and tons of teasing
Incest
Good Wife / Filthy moral alignment
Blue Balls

The two games are not very similar at all. Here is what they share in common:

Toxic Fans
Huge Download size
Endless whining in the forums
People want more updates more often
No Minigames ;)
Here you are absolutely wrong, AWAM has a combat system called Dylan the Destroyer
 

Old Dog

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My opinion is a bit different. They started criticizing minor things, praising the work of others which should be proven.
I think there should have been a response, to restore order to things.

One is faster but sacrificing quality. We could compare this to a food product, cheaper but with many E's.

I think a comparison with DPC needs more arguments not just the number of renders. It is very possible that the lighting system used by L&P is 5-10 times more time consuming than the one used by DPC (when it exists ;) ).

My PC won't let me play too much with renders/lights but we have a few in the forum that might give hints about the time needed.
Lighting can be time consuming and since L&P uses his own lighting for his scenes it can be tricky,I have used 3-4 different lighting assets on my renders and then filtering/progressive rendering all play a part as well.
The poses/clothing can also be very tricky
Take a look at the renders below.
The Delia Negligee is a nightmare to use especially if you have the character sitting down,very time consuming.

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Also after messing a round with the poses used in these renders, it is not as easy as it looks.
Yes you could move Sophia upwards but then you would have to move the arms/shoulders/torso so that the hands would be touching the desk,to make this pose look natural is not that easy.
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This is another pose that looks simple but it is not that easy to do
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So I have to take back some of the stuff that I have said about the poses.
I have tried all the poses above in the F.A section and to make them look good and natural is not an not easy task.
Yes you could use preloaded poses but they always cause errors,body positioning,and then you would have to fit the clothes to the character(dforce).
 
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nexer

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Lighting can be time consuming and since L&P uses his own lighting for his scenes it can be tricky,I have used 3-4 different lighting assets on my renders and then filtering/progressive rendering all play a part as well.
The poses/clothing can be very tricky as well.
Take a look at the render below.
The Delia Negligee is a nightmare to use especially if you have the character sitting down,very time consuming.

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Also after messing a round with the pose use in this render it is not as easy as it looks.
Yes you could move Sophia upwards but then you would have to move the arms/shoulders/torso so that the hands would be touching the desk,to make this pose look natural is not that easy.
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This is another pose that looks simple but it is not that easy to do
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So I have to take back some of the stuff that I have said about the poses.
I have tried all the poses above in the F.A section and to make them look good and natural is not an not easy task.
Good post KillJoys (y)
 
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Old Dog

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Wow, now this is something that's scaring me from using Daz. It was already complex when I listened to the artists talk about stuff in the fan art thread but now even poses that look so simple are difficult..... I genuinely never thought that the pose in the third pic would even take a minute to setup, it looked so simple.

You are an experienced person with Daz so i can take your word for this.
it is mainly trying to get the pose to look natural.
You can have Sophia's butt clipping the desk and nobody would see this because of the angle of the camera.
Then move/twist the shoulders/arms/hands back so that you can get the hands to touch the desk , the legs can be difficult as well, but since we cannot see all the legs they could be floating 3 inches off the floor for all we know.
 

nexer

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How did this thread turn into a Being a Dik thread? That game has absolutely nothing to do with this game at all.

DIK:

Sandbox
Many Minigames
Male Protagonist
Tons and tons of sex
No Incest
Dik / Chick moral alignment
Coomer Approved

AWAM:

Visual Novel
No Minigames
Female Protagonist
Tons and tons of teasing
Incest
Good Wife / Filthy moral alignment
Blue Balls

The two games are not very similar at all. Here is what they share in common:

Toxic Fans
Huge Download size
Endless whining in the forums
People want more updates more often
You're a Game-Dev and you know the difference.
Day19_11_AA28_Sophia_stretches_at_the_end_of_scene-lines-scale-1_00x.jpg

I can't see a Low Poly here
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And DIK
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If you work with low-poly: the scene weighs much less, you move faster, it loads faster, you shorten the render time.
I didn't start the discussion, it was others praising DPC's speed. I think the explanation for this speed can be seen.
 

Old Dog

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You're a Game-Dev and you know the difference.
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I can't see a Low Poly here
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And DIK
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If you work with low-poly: the scene weighs much less, you move faster, it loads faster, you shorten the render time.
I didn't start the discussion, it was others praising DPC's speed. I think the explanation for this speed can be seen.
To be fair to L&P the 3rd picture errors are caused by the Delia Negligee limitations.
 

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Just wondering how this thread was once a happy place to discuss future updates and exchange ideas. Now, it has turned into a clusterfuck. I'm not complaining, as I kinda enjoy it. But why so much trolling and hating? After all, we're all here to fap.
A happy place ?? I have been around for a year regularly and there was always an argument or fight going on. I have been part of a few. This thread is a warzone. And we all love to argue, the good part about it is that at the end of it, we hold nothing against the person we argued with. It is mostly just a clash of opinions. For this thread


:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

palmtrees89

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I think a comparison with DPC needs more arguments not just the number of renders.
You've been given plenty in the past couple of pages, yet you still continue to ignore all of them.

Very well then. But let's stop comparing images qualitatively.
Several posts later, still comparing doors and furniture. I get it, after several years of blueballing, even a doorknob can have a certain appeal to an unsatisfied individual, but you might aswell post your findings in the BaDIK thread at this point. I tend to go off-topic alot, but you're taking it to the next level.
 
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