Going through the images in ep7 I draw some conclusions:The product of DPC is his games. The product of L&P is his VN.
Based on how many people support one and the other, their rating, their publishing.. It's not hard to figure out who has the better product.
L&P isn't the only one with better renders than DPC. Stopper also has better renders. There's actually at least 5 games/VNS with better renders. Does it make them a better game? No.
That's why one has enough support to spend L&Ps networth in music for his products that go on the most popular game distributors platform in the world.
At this point not sure if you're trolling or if you're straight up not all there.
Facts? Not worth 4 yrs is an opinion! My opinion is different than yours. That doesn't mean I don't want it to be faster just like you and everyone else.Just thinking out loud, this game is slow whatever anyone says differently, the content is not worth 4yrs ( soon to be). No hate nor complaining, just facts and yeah DPC is a genius, period.
My opinion is a bit different. They started criticizing minor things, praising the work of others which should be proven.Just wondering how this thread was once a happy place to discuss future updates and exchange ideas. Now, it has turned into a clusterfuck. I'm not complaining, as I kinda enjoy it. But why so much trolling and hating? After all, we're all here to fap.
Problem is that there's nothing here to fapJust wondering how this thread was once a happy place to discuss future updates and exchange ideas. Now, it has turned into a clusterfuck. I'm not complaining, as I kinda enjoy it. But why so much trolling and hating? After all, we're all here to fap.
No MinigamesHow did this thread turn into a Being a Dik thread? That game has absolutely nothing to do with this game at all.
DIK:
Sandbox
Many Minigames
Male Protagonist
Tons and tons of sex
No Incest
Dik / Chick moral alignment
Coomer Approved
AWAM:
Visual Novel
No Minigames
Female Protagonist
Tons and tons of teasing
Incest
Good Wife / Filthy moral alignment
Blue Balls
The two games are not very similar at all. Here is what they share in common:
Toxic Fans
Huge Download size
Endless whining in the forums
People want more updates more often
Lighting can be time consuming and since L&P uses his own lighting for his scenes it can be tricky,I have used 3-4 different lighting assets on my renders and then filtering/progressive rendering all play a part as well.My opinion is a bit different. They started criticizing minor things, praising the work of others which should be proven.
I think there should have been a response, to restore order to things.
One is faster but sacrificing quality. We could compare this to a food product, cheaper but with many E's.
I think a comparison with DPC needs more arguments not just the number of renders. It is very possible that the lighting system used by L&P is 5-10 times more time consuming than the one used by DPC (when it exists).
My PC won't let me play too much with renders/lights but we have a few in the forum that might give hints about the time needed.
Good post KillJoysLighting can be time consuming and since L&P uses his own lighting for his scenes it can be tricky,I have used 3-4 different lighting assets on my renders and then filtering/progressive rendering all play a part as well.
The poses/clothing can be very tricky as well.
Take a look at the render below.
The Delia Negligee is a nightmare to use especially if you have the character sitting down,very time consuming.
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Also after messing a round with the pose use in this render it is not as easy as it looks.
Yes you could move Sophia upwards but then you would have to move the arms/shoulders/torso so that the hands would be touching the desk,to make this pose look natural is not that easy.
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This is another pose that looks simple but it is not that easy to do
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So I have to take back some of the stuff that I have said about the poses.
I have tried all the poses above in the F.A section and to make them look good and natural is not an not easy task.
That doesn't even count as a minigame it is literally type the right letter 4 time in a row lolNo Minigames
Here you are absolutely wrong, AWAM has a combat system called Dylan the Destroyer
it is mainly trying to get the pose to look natural.Wow, now this is something that's scaring me from using Daz. It was already complex when I listened to the artists talk about stuff in the fan art thread but now even poses that look so simple are difficult..... I genuinely never thought that the pose in the third pic would even take a minute to setup, it looked so simple.
You are an experienced person with Daz so i can take your word for this.
You're a Game-Dev and you know the difference.How did this thread turn into a Being a Dik thread? That game has absolutely nothing to do with this game at all.
DIK:
Sandbox
Many Minigames
Male Protagonist
Tons and tons of sex
No Incest
Dik / Chick moral alignment
Coomer Approved
AWAM:
Visual Novel
No Minigames
Female Protagonist
Tons and tons of teasing
Incest
Good Wife / Filthy moral alignment
Blue Balls
The two games are not very similar at all. Here is what they share in common:
Toxic Fans
Huge Download size
Endless whining in the forums
People want more updates more often
Lighting/DOF and placing objects in certain positions can also hide floating body parts/clipping.Woah, Lots of great insights into rendering. Camera angles are your best friend when there are certain limitations in the program and the asset
To be fair to L&P the 3rd picture errors are caused by the Delia Negligee limitations.You're a Game-Dev and you know the difference.
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I can't see a Low Poly here
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And DIK
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If you work with low-poly: the scene weighs much less, you move faster, it loads faster, you shorten the render time.
I didn't start the discussion, it was others praising DPC's speed. I think the explanation for this speed can be seen.
A happy place ?? I have been around for a year regularly and there was always an argument or fight going on. I have been part of a few. This thread is a warzone. And we all love to argue, the good part about it is that at the end of it, we hold nothing against the person we argued with. It is mostly just a clash of opinions. For this threadJust wondering how this thread was once a happy place to discuss future updates and exchange ideas. Now, it has turned into a clusterfuck. I'm not complaining, as I kinda enjoy it. But why so much trolling and hating? After all, we're all here to fap.
You've been given plenty in the past couple of pages, yet you still continue to ignore all of them.I think a comparison with DPC needs more arguments not just the number of renders.
Several posts later, still comparing doors and furniture. I get it, after several years of blueballing, even a doorknob can have a certain appeal to an unsatisfied individual, but you might aswell post your findings in the BaDIK thread at this point. I tend to go off-topic alot, but you're taking it to the next level.Very well then. But let's stop comparing images qualitatively.